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How do you know when it's time to step back from CEO and go back to building — and how do you make that call without feeling like you're giving up?

Josh identified three specific triggers: the CEO role at InDebted wasn't where he added the most value; at ten years he needed to build something that could outlast him; and the AI rebuild was demanding enough that giving it 50% would mean never knowing if it could work. Stepping back wasn't giving up — it was giving the company what it actually needed.
— Josh Foreman, InDebted (Ep 32)

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Josh Foreman
InDebted · EP 32

Josh identified three specific triggers: the CEO role at InDebted wasn't where he added the most value; at ten years he needed to build something that could outlast him; and the AI rebuild was demanding enough that giving it 50% would mean never knowing if it could work. Stepping back wasn't giving up — it was giving the company what it actually needed.

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See Josh Foreman's full take

"I need to better give absolutely everything I have in order to know if I can do this... I don't want to get to a position in three years time I didn't work but I only gave it like 50% of my time." The decision was also about the company: "that can go on for decades or centuries" shouldn't be synonymous with one person. The CEO transition was an act of de-risking InDebted's future, not an admission of failure.

JF
Josh Foreman
InDebted · EP 32

Josh identified three specific triggers: the CEO role at InDebted wasn't where he added the most value; at ten years he needed to build something that could outlast him; and the AI rebuild was demanding enough that giving it 50% would mean never knowing if it could work. Stepping back wasn't giving up — it was giving the company what it actually needed.

Listen ↗
See Josh Foreman's full take

"I need to better give absolutely everything I have in order to know if I can do this... I don't want to get to a position in three years time I didn't work but I only gave it like 50% of my time." The decision was also about the company: "that can go on for decades or centuries" shouldn't be synonymous with one person. The CEO transition was an act of de-risking InDebted's future, not an admission of failure.

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